Training Problem Horses

   
       
go to home pageKeith Hosman's biosend us an emailJohn Lyons links and morestep by step horse training email
go to: homepage go to: homepage go to: homepage

 

 

 

 
find a clinic near youfind a John Lyons Trainer near youwhat people have to say about our clinicsfree training newsletter
horse-training bookshorse-training videohorse-training audio recordingshorse tacksaddlle suppliesclothes for ridinghorse training coursesrecommended horse training productsshop by over 270 horse-training issues
   
 
Training Problem Horses img  
   


Letters
> Training Problem Horses/Buddy Sour

"Trouble is his different personality when I ride alone or with my friend teaching me..."

 
 

Dear Keith...

Tuesday, September 4, 2007

I have a bit of a dillemma with my 7 yr old dutch warmblood, i have him pretty much on full loan with view to buy and i adore him. His owner has only had him for 11 months and apparantely he didnt have a good start to life, he didnt know much of anything in any sphere, but now she says he is an adavanced horse. Trouble is his different personality when i ride alone or with my friend teaching me (who is an advanced rider and teacher) to when i have a lesson with his owner. When i ride alone or with my friend teaching this is what happens; He stands very patiently still while i mount and do my girth, only walks on when i ask. I Begin by letting him choose a rein to walk on and let him walk that at an easy pace to warm himself up and then i shorten my reins and pick up the pace to a faster walk and change reins etc and go through some transitions up and down. His only vice is that he does throw his head up so i ride with shorter reins and play with the reins very gently and keep my legs on to ride him forwards into the bit and he comes down onto the bit very very well and tries very hard, he will do it sort of every 5 or 10 seconds of me playing with his bit sometimes quicker. He accepts it very well though. He rides into the corners, he comes down from canter to trot or trot to walk as soon as i ask, he goes into trot as soon as i ask and as soon as i sit he goes straight into a beautifully collected canter. All i ever have to do to get him to stop is sit deep and he instantly stops. My friend can be talking to me for ages about what to do or what i am doing etc and he will so patiently stand there and as soon as i want walk he goes straight into it. When we jump he never ever rushes takes each fence beautifully collected and doesnt take off ever, i can put up 5 fences and he will keep the same lovely pace. Now when i have a lesson with his owner this is what happens. He will not stand still for me to mount and he will circle round so his owner has to hold him, as soon as im on he tries to storm of into walk and when i do my girth. Straight away she wants a powerful full walk and then she wants me to stop him just by sqeezing and my seat with no rein aids, which i have never really been taught to do, and even when i do that he will not stop, even when i do use my rein aids he wont stop. then i have to circle again and again till he stops at the point where he was supposed to which i agree with not letting him get away with it but im confused as to one why he wont stop with her around and will with me and my friend and why she wont let me use my reins at all even when he walks off! Then she wants longer reins and it takes me about 10 minutes to get him to come on the bit just once, and i cant find contact with long reins, so everything looks so messy. When i jump him in a lesson with her, he jumps sideways and cuts corners and takes off! i actually cant get him to come down from canter to trot, yet he has never ever done that with me alone or with my friend. he has always kept the same beautiful pace and comes back to me as soon as i ask. Its like he suddenly gets hotted up and fustraited, im just not sure. I have told her this and she says i must be riding him in a lazy way but i disagree because he remains very forward going and hard working, very very willing to please, tries so hard and always does so well, i have never had to fight with him except when his owner teaches me. What i am asking is how do you think i should carry on with him riding and training wise? what do you think the reason is for his very different attitude and personality only with the lessons with her compared to with me and my friend? Also do you have any tips of how to keep contact on a long rein because i find it so hard to do? Please Please help me i only want to give him the best and i need some guidance on where to go from here. Thankyou so much, Kerry M

 
 
- - - - -
 
 

Suggested Articles

 

Suggested Article: "Solve Every Horse Problem"
This exercise, Hip-Shoulder-Shoulder, has become a "classic" exercise for one very big reason: It gives you control of your horse's stop. Every horse-related problem you can think of comes down to "going and stopping." "I can't get my horse to...
from our How to Train a Horse series > read more

 
   

Suggested Article: "Riding Exercise: Steer the Tail"
"All you have to do is keep changing directions – for twenty minutes. You can start this exercise at a walk and then at a trot when you feel comfortable.

"The more excited or nervous the horse is, the more important it is for you to not let...

from our Horse Riding Instruction series > read more

 
   

Suggested Article: "Why Does My Horse Still Have This Problem"
It's your job to be consistent simply because horses become mirror images of their owners. Let's say you buy a horse and the horse pulls on the bit like he's trying to rip your arms out of their sockets. Well, you can blame the previous owner for...
from our Horse Training Problem series > read more

 
   

Suggested Article: "Teaching Your Horse To Stand Still"
"Training is all about control. Learning how to get control or gain control of your horse. So, let's say I want the horse to stand still but he starts moving. I've lost control, haven't I? How can I regain control if we know I can't make him stand...
from our Horse Training Basics series > read more

 
   

Suggested Article: "Horses That Pull On the Bit and Head Tossers"
If your horse begins to "root at the bit," that is to drop its head and try to pull or tug the reins out of your hands, then what he's saying is that you've taught him that if he pulls on the bit, your hands will move – and he'll get away from the...
from our Horse Riding Instruction series > read more

 
   
- - - - -
 
 

Related Letters

 

Buddy Sour
Barn Sour Horse: What can I do about the horse left behind?

 

Barn Sour
Barn Sour Horse: My horse doesn't want to listen when I want her away from the barn area

 

Go Forward
Trail Horse Training: Q: How do I get her down the lane and onto the little short trail? Answer:...

 
   
   

 

 

Related Topics

related products & articles

Buddy Sour
Barn Sour
Riding with Other Horses
Emotional Training
Stop

200+ Horse-Training Topics

 

Recommended

 

Rider's Problem Solver, The
Books
$19.95

Horse Behavior Problem Solver, The
Books
$19.95

Getting Your Horse's Attention CD
Audio
$28.99

The Calm Down Cue CD
Audio
$28.99

Troubleshooting
Books
$28.99


Trailer Training

booklet just $3.95

Trailer Training Your Horse
32 page, illustrated booklet
just $3.95
more info | see all booklets

Other booklets:
Build the Right Fence
Building a Barn
Buying/Selling a Horse
Choosing the Right Bit
Hoof Care
Keep Your Old Horse Young
Tack Care and Cleaning

 
 

John Lyons Audio

Don't waste another moment sitting in traffic! Listen to John Lyons discuss simple solutions to common horse problems.

 

Conversations with John Lyons
Buy today: $99.00


 

Fear in the Rider, Fear in the Horse CD
Buy today: $29.99


 

Getting Your Horse's Attention CD
Buy today: $29.99


 

Horse That Bites, Abused Horse CD
Buy today: $29.99


 

Sensitive Ears, Mouth, & Feet CD
Buy today: $29.99


 

The Calm Down Cue CD
Buy today: $29.99


 

Josh Lyons

One of the most sought-after clinicians in his own right, John Lyons' son Josh has produced a winning DVD series for the performance horse owner.

 

Josh Lyons Foal Handling
Buy today: $39.99


 

Josh Lyons Teaching Tricks
Buy today: $39.99


 

Josh Lyons Spins and Shoulder Control
Buy today: $39.99


 

Josh Lyons Leads and Lead Changes
Buy today: $39.99


 

Josh Lyons Sliding Stops and Rollbacks
Buy today: $39.99


 

Josh Lyons Teaching Series
Buy today: $159.99


 
How to fix a bucking horse picture

 

 

 
2008 All Rights Reserved © Keith Hosman
 

Training Problem Horses: "Trouble is his different personality when I ride alone or with my friend teaching me..." Horsemanship101.com has answers plus local trainers, tack, training books and DVDs.